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convert characterset WE8MSWIN1252 to UTF8
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Hi all
I am using Oracle 10g Database. Now the Characterset as WE8MSWIN1252. I want to change my CharacterSet to UTF8. It is possible.
Can anyone please post me the steps involved.
Very Urgent !!!!!!!
Regds
Nirmal
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Adith
#1; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:21:00 GMT

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- Hi,
I have already checked all the documentations and worked on the same, but it was not useful. Can you please let me know on converting this particular character set i.e, WE8MSWIN1252 to UTF8 in windows environment.
Regds
Nirmal
#3; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:24:00 GMT

- SHUTDOWN IMMEDIATE;
STARTUP MOUNT;
ALTER SYSTEM ENABLE RESTRICTED SESSION;
ALTER SYSTEM SET JOB_QUEUE_PROCESSES=0;
ALTER SYSTEM SET AQ_TM_PROCESSES=0;
ALTER DATABASE OPEN;
ALTER DATABASE NATIONAL CHARACTER SET UTF8;
SHUTDOWN IMMEDIATE;
Start the database in normal mode.
Regards,
Chotu
#4; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:24:00 GMT

- I would instead recommend to check Metalink note
Changing WE8ISO8859P1/ WE8ISO8859P15 or WE8MSWIN1252 to (AL32)UTF8
because:You can't simply use "ALTER DATABASE CHARACTER SET" to go from WE8ISO8859P1 or WE8ISO8859P15 or WE8MSWIN1252 to (AL32)UTF8 because (AL32)UTF8 is not a binary superset of any of these character sets.
#5; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:26:00 GMT

- Hi,
I don't have metalink credential. So can you please give me the contents of the link specified by you.
Regds
Nirmal
#6; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:27:00 GMT

- Subject: Changing WE8ISO8859P1/ WE8ISO8859P15 or WE8MSWIN1252 to (AL32)UTF8
Doc ID: Note:260192.1 Type: BULLETIN
Last Revision Date: 24-JUL-2007 Status: PUBLISHED
Changing the database character set to (AL32)UTF8
=================================================
When changing a Oracle Applications Database:
---
Please see the following note for Oracle Applications database
Note 124721.1 Migrating an Applications Installation to a New Character Set
If you have any doubt log an Oracle Applications TAR for assistance.
It might be usefull to read this note, even when using Oracle Applications
seen it explains what to do with "lossy" and "truncation" in the csscan output.
Scope:
--
You can't simply use "ALTER DATABASE CHARACTER SET" to go from WE8ISO8859P1 or
WE8ISO8859P15 or WE8MSWIN1252 to (AL32)UTF8 because (AL32)UTF8 is not a
binary superset of any of these character sets.
You will run into ORA-12712 or ORA-12710 because the code points for the
"extended ASCII" characters are different between these 3 character sets
and (AL32)UTF8.
This note will describe a method of still using a
"ALTER DATABASE CHARACTER SET" in a limited way.
Note that we strongly recommend to use the SAME flow when doing a full
export / import.
The choise between using FULL exp/imp and a PARTIAL exp/imp is made in point
7)
******************************************************************
DO NOT USE THIS NOTE WITH ANY OTHER CHARACTERSETS
WITHOUT CHECKING THIS WITH ORACLE SUPPORT
THIS NOTE IS SPECIFIC TO CHANGING:
FROM: WE8ISO8859P1, WE8ISO8859P15 or WE8MSWIN1252
TO: AL32UTF8 or UTF8
******************************************************************
AL32UTF8 and UTF8 are both Unicode character sets in the oracle database.
UTF8 encodes Unicode version 3.0 and will remain like that.
AL32UTF8 is kept up to date with the Unicode standard and encodes the Unicode
standards 3.0 (in database 9.0), 3.1 (database 9.2) or 3.2 (database 10g).
For the purposes of this note we shall only use AL32UTF8 from here on forward,
you can substitute that for UTF8 without any modifications.
If you use 8i or lower clients please have a look at
Note 237593.1 Problems connecting to AL32UTF8 databases from older versions (8i and lower)
WE8ISO8859P1, WE8ISO8859P15 or WE8MSWIN1252 are the 3 main character sets that
are used to store Western European or English/American data in.
All standard ASCII characters that are used for English/American do not have to
be converted into AL32UTF8 - they are the same in AL32UTF8. However, all other
characters, like accented characters, the Euro sign, MS "smart quotes", etc.
etc., have a different code point in AL32UTF8.
That means that if you make extensive use of these types of characters the
preferred way of changing to AL32UTF8 would be to export the entire database and
import the data into a new AL32UTF8 database.
However, if you mainly use standard ASCII characters and not a lot else (for
example if you only store English text, maybe with some Euro signs or smart
quotes here and there), then it could be a lot quicker to proceed with this
method.
Please DO read in *any* case before going to UTF8 this note:
Note 119119.1 AL32UTF8 / UTF8 (unicode) Database Character Set Implications
and consider to use CHAR semantics if on 9i or higher:
Note 144808.1 Examples and limits of BYTE and CHAR semantics usage
It's best to change the tables and so to CHAR semantics *before* the change
to UTF8.
This procedure is valid for Oracle 8i, 9i and 10g.
Note:
* If you are on 9i please make sure you are at least on Patch 9204, see
Note 250802.1 Changing character set takes a very long time and uses lots of rollback space
* if you have any function-based indexes on columns using CHAR length semantics
then these have to be removed and re-created after the character set has
been changed. Failure to do so will result in ORA-604 / ORA-2262 /ORA-904
when the "alter database character set" statement is used in step 4.
Actions to take:
--
1) install the csscan tool.
--
1A)For 10g use the csscan 2.x found in /bin, no need to install a newer version
Goto 1C)
1B)For 9.2 and lower:
Please *DO* install the version 1.2 or higher from TechNet for you version.
http://technet.oracle.com/software/tech/globalization/content.html
and install this.
copy all scripts and executables found in the zip file you downloaded
to your oracle_home overwriting the old versions.
goto 1C).
Note: do NOT use the CSSCAN of a 10g installation for 9i/8i!
1C)Run csminst.sql using these commands and SQL statements:
cd $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin
set oracle_sid=<your SID>
sqlplus "sys as sysdba"
SQL>set TERMOUT ON
SQL>set ECHO ON
SQL>spool csminst.log
SQL> START csminst.sql
Check the csminst.log for errors.
If you get when running CSSCAN the error
"Character set migrate utility schema not compatible."
then
1ca) or you are starting the old executable, please do overwrite all old files with the files
from the newer version from technet (1.2 has more files than some older versions, that's normal).
1cb) or check your PATH , you are not starting csscan from this ORACLE_HOME
1cc) or you have not runned the csminst.sql from the newer version from technet
More info is in Note 123670.1 Use Scanner Utility before Altering the Database Character Set
Please, make sure you use/install csscan version 1.2 .
2) Check if you have no invalid code points in the current character set:
----
Run csscan with the following syntax:
csscan FULL=Y FROMCHAR=<existing database character set> TOCHAR=<existing database character set> LOG=WE8check CAPTURE=Y ARRAY=1000000 PROCESS=2
Always run CSSCAN with 'sys as sysdba'
This will create 3 files :
WE8check.out a log of the output of csscan
WE8check.txt a Database Scan Summary Report
WE8check.err contains the rowid's of the rows reported in WE8check.txt
At this moment we are just checking that all data is stored correctly in the
current character set. Because you've entered the TO and FROM character sets as
the same you will not have any "Convertible" or "Truncation" data.
If all the data in the database is stored correctly at the moment then there
should only be "Changeless" data.
If there is any "Lossy" data then those rows contain code points that are not
currently stored correctly and they should be cleared up before you can continue
with the steps in this note. Please see the following note for clearing up any
"Lossy" data:
Note 225938.1 Database Character Set Healthcheck
Only if ALL data in WE8check.txt is reported as "Changeless" it is safe to
proceed to point 3)
NOTE:
--
if you have a WE8ISO8859P1 database and lossy then changing your WE8ISO8859P1 to
WE8MSWIN1252 will most likly solve you lossy.
Why ? this is explained in
Note 252352.1 Euro Symbol Turns up as Upside-Down Questionmark
Do first a
csscan FULL=Y FROMCHAR=WE8MSWIN1252 TOCHAR=WE8MSWIN1252 LOG=1252check CAPTURE=Y ARRAY=1000000 PROCESS=2
Always run CSSCAN with 'sys as sysdba'
For 9i, 8i:
Only if ALL data in 1252check.txt is reported as "Changeless" it is safe to
proceed to the next point. If not, log a tar and provide the 3 generated files.
Shutdown the listener and any application that connects locally to the database.
There should be only ONE connection the database during the WHOLE time and that's
the sqlplus session where you do the change.
2.1. Make sure the parallel_server parameter in INIT.ORA is set to false or it is not set at all.
If you are using RAC see
Note 221646.1 Changing the Character Set for a RAC Database Fails with an ORA-12720 Error
2.2. Execute the following commands in sqlplus connected as "/ AS SYSDBA":
SPOOL Nswitch.log
SHUTDOWN IMMEDIATE;
STARTUP MOUNT;
ALTER SYSTEM ENABLE RESTRICTED SESSION;
ALTER SYSTEM SET JOB_QUEUE_PROCESSES=0;
ALTER SYSTEM SET AQ_TM_PROCESSES=0;
ALTER DATABASE OPEN;
ALTER DATABASE CHARACTER SET WE8MSWIN1252;
SHUTDOWN IMMEDIATE;
STARTUP RESTRICT;
SHUTDOWN;
The extra restart/shutdown is necessary in Oracle8(i) because of a SGA
initialization bug which is fixed in Oracle9i.
-- a alter database takes typically only a few minutes or less,
-- it depends on the number of columns in the database, not the amount of data
2.3. Restore the parallel_server parameter in INIT.ORA, if necessary.
2.4. STARTUP;
now go to point 3) of this note of course your database is then WE8MSWIN1252, so
you need to replace <existing database character set> with WE8MSWIN1252 from now on.
For 10g and up:
--
When using CSSCAN 2.x (10g database) you should see in 1252check.txt this:
All character type data in the data dictionary remain the same in the new character set
All character type application data remain the same in the new character set
and
The data dictionary can be safely migrated using the CSALTER script
IF you see this then you need first to go to WE8MSWIN1252
If not, log a tar and provide all 3 generated files.
Shutdown the listener and any application that connects locally to the database.
There should be only ONE connection the database during the WHOLE time and that's
the sqlplus session where you do the change.
Then you do in sqlplus connected as "/ AS SYSDBA":
-- check if you are using spfile
sho parameter pfile
-- if this "spfile" then you are using spfile
-- in that case note the
sho parameter job_queue_processes
sho parameter aq_tm_processes
-- (this is Bug 6005344 fixed in 11g )
-- then do
shutdown immediate
startup restrict
SPOOL Nswitch.log
.oracle.itags.org..oracle.itags.org.?\rdbms\admin\csalter.plb
-- Csalter will aks confirmation - do not copy paste the whole actions on one time
-- sample Csalter output:
-- 3 rows created.
...
-- This script will update the content of the Oracle Data Dictionary.
-- Please ensure you have a full backup before initiating this procedure.
-- Would you like to proceed (Y/N)?y
-- old 6: if (UPPER('&conf') <> 'Y') then
-- New 6: if (UPPER('y') <> 'Y') then
-- Checking data validility...
-- begin converting system objects
-- PL/SQL procedure successfully completed.
-- Alter the database character set...
-- CSALTER operation completed, please restart database
-- PL/SQL procedure successfully completed.
...
-- Procedure dropped.
-- if you are using spfile then you need to also
-- ALTER SYSTEM SET job_queue_processes=<original value> SCOPE=BOTH;
-- ALTER SYSTEM SET aq_tm_processes=<original value> SCOPE=BOTH;
shutdown
startup
and the 10g database will be WE8MSWIN1252
now go to point 3) of this note of course your database is then WE8MSWIN1252, so
you need to replace <existing database character set> with WE8MSWIN1252 from now on.
3) Check which rows contain data for which the code point will change
---
Run csscan with the following syntax:
csscan FULL=Y FROMCHAR=<your database character set> TOCHAR=AL32UTF8 LOG=WE8TOUTF8 CAPTURE=Y ARRAY=1000000 PROCESS=2
Always run CSSCAN with 'sys as sysdba'
This will create 3 files :
WE8TOUTF8.out a log of the output of csscan
WE8TOUTF8.txt a Database Scan Summary Report
WE8TOUTF8.err a contains the rowid's of the rows reported in WE8check.txt
+ You should have NO entries under Lossy, because they should have been filtered
out in step 2), if you have data under Lossy then please redo step 2).
+ If you have any entries under Truncation then go to step 4)
+ If you only have entries for Convertible (and Changeless) then solve those in
step 5).
+ If you have NO entry's under the Convertible, Truncation or Lossy,
and all data is reported as "Changeless" then proceed to step 6).
4) If you have Truncation entries.
--
Whichever way you migrate from WE8(...) to AL32UTF8, you will always have to
solve the entries under Truncation.
Standard ASCII characters require 1 byte of storage space under in WE8(...) and
in AL32UTF8, however, other characters (like accented characters and the Euro
sign) require only 1 byte of storage space in WE8(...), but they require 2 or
more bytes of space in AL32UTF8.
That means that the total amount of space needed to store a string can exceed
the defined column size.
For more information about this see:
Note 119119.1 AL32UTF8 / UTF8 (unicode) Database Character Set Implications
and
"Truncation" data is always also "Convertible" data, which means that whatever
else you do, these rows have to be exported before the character set is changed
and re-imported after the character set has changed. If you proceed with that
without dealing with the truncation issue then the import will fail on these
columns because the size of the data exceeds the maximum size of the column.
So these truncation issues will always require some work, there are a number of
ways to deal with them:
A) Update these rows in the source database so that they contain less data
B) Update the table definition in the source database so that it can contain
longer data. You can do this by either making the column larger, or by using
CHAR length semantics instead of BYTE length semantics (only possible in
Oracle9i).
C) Pre-create the table before the import so that it can contain 'longer' data.
Again you have a choice between simply making it larger, or switching from BYTE
to CHAR length semantics.
If you've chosen option A or B then please rerun csscan to make sure there is no
Truncation data left. If that also means there is no Convertible data left then
proceed to step 6), otherwise proceed to step 5).
To know how much the data expands simply check the csscan output.
you can find that in the .err file as "Max Post Conversion Data Size"
For example, check in the .txt file wich table has "Truncation",
let's assume you have there a row that say's
-- snip from WE8TOUTF8.txt
[Distribution of Convertible, Truncated and Lossy Data by Table]
USER.TABLE Convertible Truncation Lossy
-- -- -- --
...
SCOTT.TESTUTF8 69 6 0
...
-- snip from WE8TOUTF8.txt
then look in the .err file for "TESTUTF8" until the
"Max Post Conversion Data Size" is bigger then the column size for that table.
User : SCOTT
Table : TESTUTF8
Column: ITEM_NAME
Type : VARCHAR2(80)
Number of Exceptions : 6
Max Post Conversion Data Size: 81
-> the max size after going to UT8 will be 81 bytes for this column.
5) If you have Convertible entries.
--
This is where you have to make a choice whether or not you want to continue
on this path or if it's simpler to do a complete export/import in the
traditional way of changing character sets.
All the data that is marked as Convertible needs to be exported and then
re-imported after the character set has changed.
6) check if you have functional indexes on CHAR based columns and purge the RECYCLEBIN.
-----
select OWNER, INDEX_NAME , INDEX_TYPE, TABLE_OWNER, TABLE_NAME, STATUS,
FUNCIDX_STATUS from ALL_INDEXES where INDEX_TYPE not in
('NORMAL', 'BITMAP','IOT - TOP') and TABLE_NAME in (select unique
(table_name) from dba_tab_columns where char_used ='C');
if this gives rows back then the change will fail with
ORA-30556: functional index is defined on the column to be modified
if you have functional indexes on CHAR based columns you need to drop the
index and recreate after the change , note that a disable will not be enough.
On 10g check ,while connected as sysdba, if there are objects in the recyclebin
SQL> show recyclebin
If so do also a PURGE DBA_RECYCLEBIN; other wise you will recieve a ORA-38301 during CSALTER.
7) Choose on how to do the actual change
---
you have 2 choices now:
Option 1 - exp/imp the *entire* database and stop using the rest of this note.
a. Export the current entire database (with NLS_LANG set to <your old
database character set>)
b. Create a new database in the AL32UTF8 character set
c. Import all data into the new database (with NLS_LANG set to <your old database character set>)
d. The conversion is complete, do not continue with this note.
note that you do need to deal with truncation issues described in step 4), even
if you use the export/import method.
Option 2 - export only the convertible data and continue using this note.
For 9i and lower:
--
a. If you have "convertible" data for the sys objects SYS.METASTYLESHEET,
SYS.RULE$ or SYS.JOB$ then follow the following note for those objects:
Note 258904.1 Convertible data in data dictionary: Workarounds when changing character set
make sure to combine the next steps in the example script given in that note.
b. Export all the tables that csscan shows have convertible data
(make sure that the character set part of the NLS_LANG is set to the current
database character set during the export session)
c. Truncate those tables
d. Run csscan again to verify you only have "changeless" application data left
e. If this now reports only Changeless data then proceed to step 8), otherwise
do the same again for the rows you've missed out.
For 10g and up:
--
a. Export all the USER tables that csscan shows have convertible data
(make sure that the character set part of the NLS_LANG is set to the current
database character set during the export session)
b. Fix any "convertible" in the SYS schema, note that the 10g way to change
the characterset (= the CSALTER script) will deal with any CLOB data in the
sys schema. All "no 9i only" fixes in
Note 258904.1 Convertible data in data dictionary: Workarounds when changing character set
should NOT be done in 10g
c. Truncate the exported user tables.
d. Run csscan again to verify you only have "changeless" application data left
e. If this now reports only Changeless data then proceed to step 8), otherwise
do the same again for the rows you've missed out.
When using CSSCAN 2.x (10g database) you should see in WE8TOUTF8.txt this:
The data dictionary can be safely migrated using the CSALTER script
If you do NOT have this when working on a 10g system CSALTER will NOT work and this
means you have missed something or not followed all steps in this note.
8) Perform the character set change:
--
Perform a backup of the database.
Check the backup.
Double-check the backup.
For 9i and below:
--
Then use the "alter database" command, this changes the current database
character set definition WITHOUT changing the actual stored data.
Shutdown the listener and any application that connects locally to the database.
There should be only ONE connection the database during the WHOLE time and that's
the sqlplus session where you do the change.
1. Make sure the parallel_server parameter in INIT.ORA is set to false or it is not set at all.
If you are using RAC see
Note 221646.1 Changing the Character Set for a RAC Database Fails with an ORA-12720 Error
2. Execute the following commands in sqlplus connected as "/ AS SYSDBA":
SPOOL Nswitch.log
SHUTDOWN IMMEDIATE;
STARTUP MOUNT;
ALTER SYSTEM ENABLE RESTRICTED SESSION;
ALTER SYSTEM SET JOB_QUEUE_PROCESSES=0;
ALTER SYSTEM SET AQ_TM_PROCESSES=0;
ALTER DATABASE OPEN;
ALTER DATABASE CHARACTER SET INTERNAL_USE AL32UTF8;
SHUTDOWN IMMEDIATE;
-- a alter database takes typically only a few minutes or less,
-- it depends on the number of columns in the database, not the amount of data
3. Restore the parallel_server parameter in INIT.ORA, if necessary.
4. STARTUP;
Without the INTERNAL_USE you get a ORA-12712: new character set must be a superset of old character set
WARNING WARNING WARNING
Do NEVER use "INTERNAL_USE" unless you did follow the guidelines STEP BY STEP
here in this note and you have a good idea what you are doing.
Do NEVER use "INTERNAL_USE" to "fix" display problems, but follow Note 225938.1
If you use the INTERNAL_USE clause on a database where there is data listed
as convertible *without* exporting that data then the data will be corrupted by
changing the database character set !
For 10g and up:
--
Shutdown the listener and any application that connects locally to the database.
There should be only ONE connection the database during the WHOLE time and that's
the sqlplus session where you do the change.
Then you do in sqlplus connected as "/ AS SYSDBA":
-- check if you are using spfile
sho parameter pfile
-- if this "spfile" then you are using spfile
-- in that case note the
sho parameter job_queue_processes
sho parameter aq_tm_processes
-- (this is Bug 6005344 fixed in 11g )
-- then do
shutdown
startup restrict
SPOOL Nswitch.log
.oracle.itags.org..oracle.itags.org.?\rdbms\admin\csalter.plb
-- Csalter will aks confirmation - do not copy paste the whole actions on one time
-- sample Csalter output:
-- 3 rows created.
...
-- This script will update the content of the Oracle Data Dictionary.
-- Please ensure you have a full backup before initiating this procedure.
-- Would you like to proceed (Y/N)?y
-- old 6: if (UPPER('&conf') <> 'Y') then
-- New 6: if (UPPER('y') <> 'Y') then
-- Checking data validility...
-- begin converting system objects
-- PL/SQL procedure successfully completed.
-- Alter the database character set...
-- CSALTER operation completed, please restart database
-- PL/SQL procedure successfully completed.
...
-- Procedure dropped.
-- if you are using spfile then you need to also
-- ALTER SYSTEM SET job_queue_processes=<original value> SCOPE=BOTH;
-- ALTER SYSTEM SET aq_tm_processes=<original value> SCOPE=BOTH;
shutdown
startup
and the 10g database will be AL32UTF8
9) Reload the data pump packages after a change to AL32UTF8 / UTF8 in Oracle10
----
If you use Oracle10 then the datapump packages need to be reloaded after
a conversion to UTF8/AL32UTF8. In order to do this run the following 3
scripts from $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin in sqlplus connected as "/ AS SYSDBA":
For 10.2.X:
catnodp.sql
catdph.sql
catdpb.sql
For 10.1.X:
catnodp.sql
catdp.sql
10) Reimporting the exported data:
--
If you exported any data in step 5) then you now need to reimport that data.
Make sure that the character set part of the NLS_LANG is still set to the
original database character set during the import session (just as it was during
the export session).
11) Verify the clients NLS_LANG:
--
Make sure your clients are using the correct NLS_LANG setting:
Regards,
Chotu,
Bangalore
#7; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:28:00 GMT

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Adith
#8; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:29:00 GMT

- Adith, Thanks for the info..
chotu
#9; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:30:00 GMT

- Hi all
Thanks a lot !
Regds
Nirmal
#10; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:31:00 GMT

- Adith has already informed you regarding potential unauthorized use of Metalink, so I will just add that you may:
- read the Terms of Use. In Metalink there's a link to the right in the footer
- edit your post above to make sure you are not in violation of support contract or other agreement.
#11; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:32:00 GMT

- > Hi,
>
> I have already checked all the documentations and
> worked on the same, but it was not useful. Can you
> please let me know on converting this particular
> character set i.e, WE8MSWIN1252 to UTF8 in windows
> environment.
>
> Regds
> Nirmal
I am not sure why you say it's not useful.
The document specifically covered the topic of Character Set Migration.
It explained the risk involved, Data Truncation, invalid data and method to do the migration,
The approaches are:
Migrating Character Data Using a Full Export and Import
Migrating a Character Set Using the CSALTER Script
Migrating Character Data Using the CSALTER Script and Selective Imports
#12; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:33:00 GMT

- > I am not sure why you say it's not useful.
> The document specifically covered the topic of
> Character Set Migration.
>
> It explained the risk involved, Data Truncation,
> invalid data and method to do the migration,
>
> The approaches are:
>
> Migrating Character Data Using a Full Export and
> Import
>
> Migrating a Character Set Using the CSALTER Script
>
> Migrating Character Data Using the CSALTER Script and
> Selective Imports
Hi,
You see many people here don't like reading especially standard Oracle Documentation reading. It is much easier to come here and get the full set of actions that can be immediately implemented on real production system.
Best Regards,
Alex
#13; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:34:00 GMT

- >
> Hi,
>
> You see many people here don't like reading
> especially standard Oracle Documentation reading. It
> is much easier to come here and get the full set of
> actions that can be immediately implemented on real
> production system.
>
> Best Regards,
> Alex
That's true.
Don't you think it's kind of dangous to just take a full set of actions (posted by someone in the forum) and apply to your production database without knowing whether and why it's working? Of course, posting a metalink document is a little different but that's not quite legal.
Personally I don't think it's a good practise for a DBA. It might work for a few cases for a quick dirty fix. I would rather being pointed out where and how to find answers and understand the subject matter before proceed.
#14; Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:35:00 GMT